Twohigs Massachussetts

Posted by: Janet SMITH (ID *****0418)	Date: April 29, 2004 at 13:33:09
In Reply to: Re: David Joseph Twohig by Kevin Casey	of 82

I am a descendant of the Holyoke Twohigs. My 3GGrandfather Bartholomew and Hanorah Buckley Twohig were in Chicopee for 1850 census. They had land in Armstrong, Fond du Lac, Wisconson. On a visit back to Chicopee, he d in 1852 and is buried in Holyoke.

I have recently located the two families on the tithe applotment in Ireland. Although Bartholomew's intent to naturalize stated he was b in Gloutane Parish, that particular parish is a long way from where the family was located in the 1820s. The townland of Glantane is located between the Buckley's who were in South Glen and James Twohig (Bartholomew's father)in Nadanuller Beg, Clonmeen Parish, Duhallow Barony, Cork, Ireland.

Hanorah and presumeably her brothers are the land leasers in South Glen. It appears she inherited her lease from her mother, Widow Buckley. James Twohig, Bartholomew's father is the leaser in Nadanuller Beg. It is said that Hanorah and Bartholomew's children were b in Dunmanway, but I have not been able to sustantiate that, especially considering that Hanorah is listed on the tithe (South Glen) for the entire time, while the children were being b.

Bartholomew and Hanorah Buckley Twohig came to the U.S. during the famine. On the Griffith's valuation, after the famine was over, there are still some Buckley on the same land, with Hanorah no longer there. James Twohig is also still listed on his land.

Unfortunately, the tithe and the Griffith's only list head of house and the records are sketchy in between, to the 1901 census, but there are still Buckley's and Twohigs leasing the same land by that time.

Rather than fill up this space, unless there are those interested, I won't add the additional land details and descriptions unless someone is interested.

At the Family History Library in Salt Lake, I once came across the probate of Hanorah Buckley Twohig, which mentioned land in Ireland. Due to inexperience at the time, I did not copy it and am searching for it again.
Janet Smith
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Posted by: Kevin Casey (ID *****5913)	Date: April 29, 2004 at 14:02:47
In Reply to: Re: David Joseph Twohig by Janet SMITH	of 82

Janet:

I'd certainly like whatever information you have.

My biggest problem right now is finding out why Margaret Twohig and her son John W. moved directly to Chicopee when they arrived. I think it's because of the Twohigs living there who were related to Margaret, but I have no direct proof that the Chicopee Twohigs were even "her" Twohigs.

Again, any info would be appreciated, and feel free to contact me directly via email.

Thanks,

Kevin


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Posted by: DENNIS SMITH (ID *****0418)	Date: May 08, 2004 at 16:27:45
In Reply to: RE: David Joseph Twohig by Patricia Twohig	of 82

Patricia,
Yes, I am sharing. I come through their sister Mary Wenfred Twohig. She married William Emmett Cronin and they went to Iowa. I have not been able to confirm the Dunmanway birthplace and there were no Twohigs there on the tithe in about 1826-1830, which was when the early children in this family were being born. I am thinking that Hanorah and Bartholomew could have moved there, after a few children were b. At this point, there are two birth places mentioned for Bartholomew and it appears that our Twohigs were in both places. Fortunately, we know one thing and that Bartholomew d in Chicopee, MA.

I was just speaking with your relative and she mentioned you. Will be in contact. It is alright to email me at the address listed for this posting.
Janet
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ed by: DENNIS SMITH (ID *****0418)	Date: July 17, 2004 at 11:24:14
In Reply to: Twohigs in Massachusetts from early 1800's by Dick Brown	of 82

Hello Dick Brown,
Bartholomew Twohig is my 3GGrandfather. His death certificate says father James and mother Johannah. I do not know whether his parents came to the U.S. I do know that he had family remaining in Chicopee, when he took his family to Wisconsin and purchased land. His intent to naturalize lists him as b in Gloutane Parish, Co. Cork.
Sincerely,
Janet Smith

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osted by: George Twohig (ID *****7266)	Date: January 22, 2005 at 07:50:02
In Reply to: Re: Twohigs in Massachusetts from early 1800's by DENNIS SMITH	of 82

My uncle still owns my GG Grandparent's, Bartholomew and Hanorah (Buckley),original farm in Fond du Lac Co., WI- My dad grew up on the farm. (Bartholomew,then David, then George Richard, then George Joseph, then me. I believe you may have corresponded with my aunt,Patricia Twohig. I am very interest in any information about Bartholomew or Hanorah's parents and sibblings and the possible connection with the Mass. Twohigs.

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osted by: Richard Finn (ID *****4958)	Date: January 23, 2005 at 21:22:07
In Reply to: Re: Twohig in WI by George Twohig	of 82

Hello George,

I am Richard Connell Finn. I now live in Winston-Salem, NC, but I was born in Fond du Lac, WI in 1937. My father was Walton Chaffee Finn who practiced medicine in FDL from 1932 - 1952. My mother was Margaret Connell and her mother was Liza Twohig. Liza's brother was George, and their father was David Joseph Twohig and mother Birgit Hardgrove. I had tried to contact your aunt Patricia directly by email, but was probably dumped in her junk mail and deleted. I even have a letter she sent my brother Robert with info about our ancestors. My brother is now deceased, but I'm sure she is aware of that. At any rate I just wish to make contact. Possibly you have more information on the Twohig ancestory. I have a friend here in Winston-Salem who's mother's maiden name was Twohig, who apparently was from WV. My email address is listed.
Hope to hear from you, Dick Finn
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osted by: DENNIS SMITH (ID *****0418)	Date: January 24, 2005 at 12:32:30
In Reply to: Re: Twohig in WI by Richard Finn	of 82

I am also a descendant of Bartholomew and Hanorah (Buckley) Twohig, through their daughter, Mary Wenfred who married William Emmett Cronin. They moved to Iowa.

The long and short of it, is that the Twohigs in Fond du Lac and Chicopee area, Massachusetts, are probably related. However, I have found no interaction, once Hannorah took the children back to Fond du Lac, after Batholomew died. On his death registration, in 1852, he is listed as a laborer and gives an address in Chicopee where he lived. The family story, is that after they arrived in Fond du Lac, he missed his family and they went back to Chicopee.

The questions: Who was that family he missed? Were they already in Massachusetts? Or did he anticipate that more of his family would be arriving from Ireland soon? With Bartholomew being employed there, were they going to stay, or was he just working, until they would be going back to their farm in Wisconsin?

The other Twohig families in Chicopee area, have some similar names to our Bartholomew and Hanorah's family. I found one, in another Twohig family, who came to the U.S. the same year Bartholomew did, 1848. There is definitely more than one Twohig family in Chicopee area and they are all related, but how they are related to ours, is still the question. Our Bartholomew was the approximate oldest of all these Twohigs.

The Irish are a curious lot. Often, when asked the date they immigrated or their birthday, they would say, "On or about St. Patrick's Day." If only they had left a wider paper trail.
Janet Smith
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osted by: Richard Finn (ID *****4958)	Date: January 29, 2005 at 12:53:34
In Reply to: Re: Twohig in WI and Massachusetts by DENNIS SMITH	of 82

Hello Janet,

It is good to hear from a relative. I have seen your posts and copied several of them. We share a common ancestry through Bartholomew and Hanorah Buckley Twohig. I am a neophyte to genealogical research. I wish I had started when I was 12 rather than 67. I could have gotten 1st hand reports then. To soon old, too late smart.

Mary Wenfred Cronin would have been the sister of my great grandfather, David Joseph Twohig. My understandfing of this is much like yours. I believe that David was an adult when he arrived in the USA. My great aunt Laura (Laura May Twohig Doyle), one of David's daughters always said how proud her father was that he had purchased his land in WI as opposed to my great grandmother's family (Hardgrove) who had obtained their land by a land grant. I suspect that Bartholomew and possibly Hanorah had accompanied David to WI when the land was purchased. David married Birgit Hardgrove and they had 8 children that reached adulthood (I'm not aware of others). Bartholomew went to visit family in the Chicopee/Holyoke area and died quite suddenly there and was buried in the area. Were others of his family living there at the time??? I had the impression that David may not have accompanied him. I'm not aware of when and where David married. In Ireland? in Holyoke? in Wisconsin?. Apparently, some time after Bartholomew's death, Hanorah traveled to WI to her son's farm near Armstrong and ended up staying there. Did she bring any of her children with her or were they all adults by this time?

My grandmother was Eliza Twohig Connell. She was David and Birgit 5th child. The children were as follows in order of birth: Bartholomew, Henry, Nora Ellen, David,
George, Eliza, Laura May and Elmer. "Aunt" Laura, my grandmother's sister, was a great story teller. She would tell us many stories of living on the farm during her youth. Unfortunately, she said nothing about her siblings, parents, grandparents or aunts and uncles.We heard moving tales of the migration from Ireland and tales of Indian encounters but no dates. I heard these tales all my early life but never knew the questions to ask.

As I am not aware of the date and location of the marriage between David and Birgit, I suppose it could have been in Ireland. Their 1st child, Bartholomew (named after his grandfather), might have been born there and could account for the confusion of dates that have been encountered by some reasearchers. It may have been that David Joseph and his father, Bartholomew, left Ireland at the same time together with their families. Also if they came in through the port of Boston, I'm sure that could explain their presence of the name in that area as well.

All this is conjecture of course and documentation is needed.

Dick Finn
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Re: Twohig in WI and Massachusetts
Posted by: DENNIS SMITH (ID *****0418)	Date: February 01, 2005 at 10:49:32
In Reply to: Re: Twohig in WI and Massachusetts by Richard Finn	of 82

Yes, Richard. We are third cousins, one time removed. I didn't start research until about 17 years ago, but my mother, who worked on Dad's lines, was timely, in that she talked to the older ones, before they were gone. I have original letters between her and Laura Doyle. I met David Twohig, the son of George Joseph Twohig, at the Family History Library in Salt Lake, when he lived there, a number of years ago and we shared further information.

That is an enlightenment I had not considered, that the land belonged to David the son and not to Bartholomew and Hanorah, so when Bartholomew went back to Chicopee, he was working there. Except. David Twohig was only six years old in 1850, so the land was probably his parents. According to family records though, David should have been 13 years old in 1850, making him proably 11 when they came from Ireland.

David married Bridget Hardgrove. Bridget is the Irish form of the name. I can send a text of their family, with sources.

There is no confusion between the name of Bartholomew. Our Bartholomew, born 1795, is oldest of them all. So far, we don't know which side of the family the name of Bartholomew came from. The other families in Chicopee also have Bartholomew. Without the exact ages of some of them, it is hard to say there, who belongs to who. Irish naming pattern:
First boy - named after husband's father.
Second boy - named after mother's father.
Third boy - named after his father.


David and Bridget married in Osceola. Here is an account from a county history:
From the History of Fond du Lac County -submitted by Cherie Pennau:
TWOHIG, DAVID, farmer, Sec. 1; P.O. Armstrong's Corners; born Feb 14, 1837 in County Cork, Ireland; is a son of Bartholomew and Hanorah T., who emigrated to America in 1848, and remained in Chicopee, Mass., until 1852, when the family made a brief visit to Wisconsin and bought the farm. After the return to Massachusetts, Mr. Twohig, Sr., died and, in 1855, the family settled on the farm of eighty acres, now owned by David Twohig, he having built good barns and a handsome modern residence. He married, Feb 6, 1877, Miss Bridget Hargrove, a native of County Clare, Ireland, her people having reached America in 1846, and settled in 1852 in Forest. Mr. and Mrs. T. have five children--Bartholomew, Norah E., Henry F., David J., and George R. The family are Roman Catholics. Mr. Twohig is officially identified with his town, as he was elected Supervisor at 22 years of age, and has been elected Assessor four years.

Here are some notes I have for Bartholomew, including the 1850 census. There were still children at home when Bartholomew passed away.

13 September 1850 Census, Chicopee, Hampden, Massachusetts p195 2798/3040 Bartholomew Twage 54 m laborer b IRE, Honora Twage 50 f b IRE, Johanna Twage 15 f b IRE, Honora Twage 11 f b IRE school, Bartholomew Twage 8 m b IRE school, David Twohig 6 m b IRE school, Mary Twage 4 f b IRE, Catharine Twage 2 f b Mass.

David Patrick Twohig - Naturalization plea for the Common Court of Hampden County - Springfield Mass states he came to America of January 7, 1848.

Film #1479801 Intents: Bartholomew Twohig primary declaration March term book 25 #822 p230. Respectfully Represents Bartholomew Twohig of Chicopee in said county that he was born at the parish of Gloutane in the County of Cork Ireland on or about the Twenty fourth day of August A. D. Seventeen hundred and ninety-five and is now abt Fifty four years of age; that he arrived at Boston in the District of Massachusetts in the United States of America, on or about the seventh day of January in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and Forty Eight; that it then was, and still is his bona fide intention to become a citizen of the United States of America, and to renounce all allegiance and fidelity to every foreign Prince, Pontentate and Sovereignty whatsoever-more especially to Victoria Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland whose subject he has heretofore been. He therefore prays, that this his Declaration and intention may become a record of this Honorable Court, agreeably to the laws in such case made and provided. Bartholomew Twohig signed.

Chicopee Vital Records Deaths film #2027070:
10 Oct 1852 #789 Bartholomew Twohig 57y d Chicopee Park St. male married laborer b Monontragat (or it could be Monontagrat) Ireland parents James Twohig and Johanna typhus fever Roman Catholic Cemetery (he was buried Holyoke) informant or undertaker Wm. L. Bemis.

Sincerely,
Janet

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Posted by: Richard Finn (ID *****4958)	Date: February 01, 2005 at 20:50:49
In Reply to: Re: Twohig in WI and Massachusetts by DENNIS SMITH	of 82

Thank you Janet. This overwhelms me. I really wish to return to Fond du Lac one day and visit the farm in Armstrong. It is wonderful that you mother communicated with my great aunt Laura Doyle. I'm sure she got quite a bit of information from her. She was the last of David Joseph Twohig's children to die. That was during the winter of 1977-78. I discovered that my grandmother's, Laura's sister, name was Mary Eliza Twohig (m Connell). I always heard everyone address her as Liza or Eliza, never knowing her first name was Mary. I wonder if she was named in honor of your great grandmother Mary Wenfred Twohig. Am I correct calling her your great grandmother? Also the frequency that the name David appears is very common. David Joseph Tw's 3rd son was named David John Twohig. He then had a son given the exact same name, a Jr. The name David was also used by other of the children for their sons.
Dick Finn

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Posted by: DENNIS SMITH (ID *****0418)	Date: February 09, 2005 at 14:06:48
In Reply to: Re: Twohig in WI and Massachusetts by Richard Finn	of 82

Dick Finn,
Yes Mary Wenfred Twohig Cronin, was my GGGrandmother. Yes, I do believe the name David, is either a Twohig or Buckley name. It appears quite often. Somehow, I wish we knew a little bit more about the first generation which came here. They could answer a lot of questions.
Janet

osted by: LuAnn Elsinger (ID *****9608)	Date: February 21, 2008 at 14:25:57
In Reply to: Re: Twohigs in Massachusetts from early 1800's by Janet Smith	of 82

Janet,

I do have the marriage of Bartholomew Twohig and Honora Buckley. Email me at jelsinger@charter.net

LuAnn
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Posted by: George Twohig (ID *****7266)	Date: February 26, 2005 at 05:46:28
In Reply to: Re: Twohig in WI and Massachusetts by DENNIS SMITH	of 82

Hello Dennis and Richard
Sorry for this late reply-I appreciate your the recent postings. I would really like to talk with each of you and if possible meet you. I live in Elkhart Lake, WI, which is 10 miles from Armstrong. My father is George J. Twohig, who is 93 and lives in Kiel(b.1/6/1911, Armstrong, Town of Osceola, FDL Co., WI). He is a son of George Richard Twohig (b. 1/6/1879, Armstrong, d. 9/3/1966, Armstrong, and Mollie Brown), son of David Joseph Twohig (b.2/14/1837,d.1/1/20/1913, City of Fond du Lac, FDL Co, WI) and Bridget Hardgrove (b.1/12/1843, d.5/19,1923) G.R and Mollie are buried at our Lady of Angels Cemetery in Armstrong and David and Bridget are buried at Calvary Cemetery, FDL. They had moved to FDL to be near their sons, Dr.'s David,Elmer, and Henry in their last years after my grandfather, George, tookover operation of the farm. David and Bridget were married in Armtrong on February 06, 1867.

I suggest that you review "Thomas Hagerty's Diary" which is posted on the Sheboygan County Genealogy website. The diary includes entires for many years. Great Stuff. For example:

1863
Feb. 2 Mon Bitter cold and clear all day. Kept school. Went to Peters in the evening to top boots. Was disappointed. Went to Scott to spelling school. Slept at Manleys. B. J. went home. Coldest day up to this time in 1863. Mailed letter to C. McHale. Mary Twohig married.
Aug. 14 Sun Clear and pleasant, 84. Duggan had cradling bee. Helped him. Went to McGraths in the evening. Celia Connell died 9:30 a.m.
Aug. 15 Mon Cloudy and warm. Making coffin in a.m. Went to funeral in p.m.
1865
Feb. 1 Wed Drawing firewood with team for Jas. Connell all day.
March 28 Tue James Connell had barn raising. Helped him all day.
1867
Jan. 7 Mon An heiress born to the Connell's.
Jan. 13 Sun Went to mass at Mitchell, horseback. Hannah Connell was baptized.
Feb. 3 Sun Mass at Osceola, went there with team. J. Rooney got married. D. Twohig and R. Hardgrove published.
Feb. 23 Sat Left Gal's in the morn. to shoe horses. Came back via Elliot's. Contracted with him to build barn for $150. Bought cloth from weaver. Came home in the evening. Bernard Connell's family came to Wisconsin.
Feb. 24 Sun Late mass at Mitchell. Went to Jim's in the evening with team to see Mrs. Connell.
1868
Aug. 9 Sun Pews sold. Mass at Mitchell. John Connell baptized - -Mona and me sponsors
1869
Sept. 2 Thur Green and J. Connell called at 12 1/2 o'clock a.m. and exchanged notes on horse affair.

My father knew Dr. Connell well. I can remember visiting a Dr.Connell at the reirement home in Sheboygan when I was young.
If you ever want to visit the home site or talk to the local Twohig's, contact me and stay at our home. I will call you if you provide you telephone #, or email me andI will provide mine.
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Posted by: George Twohig (ID *****7266)	Date: February 26, 2005 at 06:46:33
In Reply to: Re: Twohig in WI and Massachusetts by George Twohig	of 82

for reference:
entley-Braford Clipping Collection, Fond du Lac County, Wisconsin
DEATH CLAIMS OLD RESIDENT- Mrs. Bridget Twohig, Aged 78, Expired at Home on East Secod Street- Was Native of Ireland. The death of Bridget Twohig, age 78, an old and beloved resident of the community, occurred at 8:45 o'clock Sunday morning at the family residence, 131 East Second Street.Mrs. Twohig had been ailing for the past three weeks but her condition was not considered serious. Bridget Hardgrove was born in County Claire, Ireland on January 12, 1843. She came with her parents to Canada at the age of 2, residing for a while in Toronto. The family then moved to Milwaukee where they stayed for a few months before settling in the town of Forest. Her father, Henry Hardgrove, was one of the pioneers of the county. The deceased was married to David Twohig on February 6, 1867 in the Byron Ctholic church. The couple resided in the town of Osceloa until eight years ago, when they moved to Fond du Lac. Mr. Twohig died a few months after coming to this city.
Mrs. Twohig is survived by five sons, Barthlomew, Drs. David, Henry and Elmer, all of Fond du Lac, George at the old family farm in Osceola; two daughters, Mrs. J.P. Connell and Laura Twohig of this city; four brothers, John of Hopkins, Minn., Henry of Madison, Timothy and Richard of this city; and four sisters, Mrs. Frank Tice of Pueblo, Col., Mrs. Elizabeth Red___ of Chicago, Mrs. James Smith of Eden and Miss Mary Hardgrove of this city. She is also survived by 21 grandchildren, one great-grandchild and about 70 iving nieces and nephews.
FUNERAL ON TUESDAY. The funeral will be held from the residence at 9 0'clock Tuesday morning and at 9:30 from St. Joseph's Catholic church. A requiem high mass will be celebrated by the Rev. J.J. Collin. Burial will e at Calvary cemetery. The deceased was member of St. Joseph's and St. Patrick' churches. Mrs. Twohig was well known throughout the county and was held in high esteem by many friends and acquaintances. Her death will be greatly mourned.
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Posted by: Richard Finn (ID *****4958)	Date: March 26, 2005 at 23:32:40
In Reply to: Re: Twohig in WI and Massachusetts by George Twohig	of 82

Hello George,

You have left some interesting notes on the forum. As I said earlier, my grandmother was Eliza Twohig Connell, the 2nd daughter of David Joseph Twohig. I too would have enjoyed to have more information regarding the Twohigs. My great aunt Laura Doyle was a wealth of information. I don't know if any of her grand nieces or grand nephews mined that information before she died in 1977. If anyone would have it would most likely be Giles Clark. Giles would be in his mid or late 70's now. He was something of a historian early on and may have some of the information we seek. Giles mother, Laura May, was the daughter of Nora Twohig Connell. Nora was Dr. James Peter Connell's first wife. She died following the birth of her 3rd child, George. Eliza (Elizabeth), her sister, came and helped by running the household and caring for the children. She ended up marrying Dr. Connell after a few years. As far as I know Giles still lives in WI, but I've been unable to locate him. I will renew my search and let you know. I guess I need to visit FDL Co. sometime and see the farm. I was there only once that I can recall when I was very young.